Guitar Fetish Xgp Tune O Matic Bridges Review

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GFS brass locking tuneomatic replacement?

• Thread starter thorny64
• Start date Nov sixteen, 2012

• #1

Here is the link to the site showing the part and description (I am not affiliated with them in whatever style):http://www.guitarfetish.com/SOLID-Brass-Chrome-locking-Tuneomatic-bridge-locking-Saddles-_p_4218.html

Here is a motion picture installed in my guitar:

Anyone try one of these?
Information technology is a new locking tuneomatic replacement replacement from GFS. I bought it along with the locking studs to replace the replacement metric bridge on my Dean Icon. I know that there are a lot of gear snobs on the forum (heck, I have washed my own share of sticking my nose upward at some inexpensive gear), but I happen to really similar this particular guitar and I don't have a budget at the moment for something a lot more expensive. I figured I would say what I liked and didn't similar about it. This definitely isn't an advertising for it. I hit both sides pretty well I think.

Here is some groundwork on the guitar and the purchase:
- I bought the locking bushings that go with it. My guitar was a korean fabricated Dean Icon (likley by World Guitars for Dean) from the early on 2000s, then it had a standard metric style tuneomatic bridge. Non sure virtually how a gibson nashville would fare.
- My guitar now has an earvana compensated nut, and then on my particular setup the bridge intonation adjustment will more than of a straighter line than about, then if you wonder what is going on - that might help yous out.
- The body is mahogany with a maple veneer on top, light, looks something like a prs, merely light and thin like an SG - I have dimarzios in this one (timmons and anniv paf).
- I ordered information technology and information technology arrived near 3 days or so afterward - pretty fast. *It was most half of the price or less than a locking tonepros, merely you can practise your ain pricing for your own options and finishes.My overall impressions on this bridge:
- It seems to exist very well-made. Slightly heavier I recollect. Everything fits tightly together. I used my bushings already inside my guitar rather than apply the ones with the unit. The studs actually fit very tightly to the bushings already in the guitar, much tighter than the ones I removed and than they were in their ain supplied bushings. I didn't want to remove them anyway, and considered this an overall advantage.
- I was concerned initially because of the steep angle of my strings on my item guitar considering I don't have a tailpiece, they go through the body. My concerned were alleviated considering all I had to do was loosen and flip three of the saddles. The saddles accept a sharper angle on one side vs. the other. With the sharp angle side toward where the tailpiece would take been, it worked fine. I saw someone else (with this span and with a tailpiece) run their strings over the top of their tailpiece for the lighter strings. That would brand the tension really low on the treble side and is not a good solution in my opinion (unless you happen to desire depression tension). So don't overlook flipping the saddle orientation, it is actually easy.
- I like the way it looks simply some others don't like information technology. It is a affair of personal preference.
- I did notice that the bridge had nearly no adjustment lower on my particular guitar after installed. Overall is must exist a chip "thicker" or ride higher than a standard 1. This could be a problem when you install if a standard tuneomatic is pretty low on your guitar prior to installation. I didn't accept measurements, but if your stock bridge is close to bottoming out I would not recommend trying this i.
- The span has the same size aligning wheels as the i previously, but since the one previously had a flat screw driver adjustment from the top, information technology was MUCH easier to adjust. This i would not move by manus and was difficult to adjust by a needle-nosed pliers also (the bushings were very tight) with the bridge installed. So I had to loosen the strings remove the bridge to adjust information technology. Think though, mine had a pretty tight fit though. It probably would have been easier with the bushings that shipped with it. On my particular guitar information technology was almost bottoming out on the bass side, and had a little adjustment left on the treble side.
- Adjusting the intonation was a little cumbersome as y'all have to adapt both sides with little allen set screws. Sometimes it was hard to see it if it was hidden from view within the pigsty in the saddle. But it adapted very well.
- Information technology really is solid when it is all locked down. The span and posts are locked, at that place was no play in the bushings, and it saddles were locked as well. The stock notches held the strings in place without buzzing or requiring any filing on mine.
- How does it sound? I recall a bit louder than the previous bridge (which was ameliorate than the smaller stock bridge that came with information technology). I have another i with what I believe is a Gotoh metric span on information technology, and the gotoh is a bit brighter. But the contumely GFS has a loud cardinal note and it sustains amend (noticeably louder and better than before).

I would recommend it if you are looking for a solid comeback vs. the cheap metric bridges that come with most epiphones and import Les Paul and 335 type copies. It improves sustain and results in a "fatter" sounding note for lack of a ameliorate word. Information technology is MUCH cheaper than any other locking bridge except maybe the locking roller wilkinson model (my recommendation if yous utilise a bigsby way tailpiece). I would not probable recommend taking off a tonepros bridge and putting this on unless you are looking for more of a fundamental note sound (I doubtable the tonepros would be a footling brighter, merely I don't actually know unless I compare the two sided by side in the same guitar).

If your guitar sounds a bit thin, this might aid. If information technology needs more sustain, information technology will definitely help. Probably skilful for most Korean and Chinese-fabricated guitars in which it would fit if they don't take a tonepros on it. They have a tailpiece that goes forth with it too, but my particular guitar was strung through body and then I have non tested that one (yet anyway). The wilkinson locking roller sounds fantastic every bit well and is best with a bigsby (I similar the wilkinson WAY meliorate than the schaller roller because the rolling action does not move the positioning of the strings left or right).

Overall, I'd rate this high for quality, blindside-for-the-buck, and sound quality (given my previous qualifications). Information technology would be an improvement for almost guitars and is certainly a good price. If I had a high-quality Gotoh or Tonepros I might go out those in in that location unless I wanted a bit more cardinal.

Don't get it if you have a peculiarly nighttime sounding guitar or if your current tuneomatic is already well-nigh bottoming out. On the latter you may not be able to get your strings low enough. I would charge per unit the installation as slightly more difficult than a metric gotoh bridge or a tonepros. I recall it will ameliorate the sustain on just about whatever guitar vs. a standard non-locking span (the modest or the large metric multifariousness).

Final edited: Nov 18, 2012

• #two

I had ane for a while. It works fine. I had an odd band after I installed it. I call up it was something with the guitar though and non the bridge. I did non like setting intonation with it. It did not really brighten the guitar it was more clear though.

• #three

I agree, it does not brighten it. You say "more clear" and I say "more than key" and I think we are describing the same thing.

No odd band for me, just you lot said it may be the guitar.

Yeah, agree, a little bit more hard to fix the intonation vs. a tuneomatic, merely that is something you lot should not have to mess with much after you do it the first time. Sounds like we agree.

The wilkinson locking roller, information technology was a piddling brighter and sounded good also. I think the existent Gotoh-made span sounds a niggling brighter too, as probable also does the tonpros locking bridge (which I am pretty certain gotoh makes with the sets screws for tonepros). Don't know for sure though.

Next I am trying their GFS bigsby-like bridge they simply came out with with the wilkinson on my epi wilshire. I will report what that sounds like too.

• #iv

I picked ane up recently and put it on a 2005 SG Standard. I concur well-nigh the strengthening of the fundamental--and to me, it seemed like the mids of the guitar shifted ever so slightly toward the lower mids--which I loved. Overall, the unplugged and electrified guitar was less blusterous in a good mode, similar the stone-n-roll fairy had paid a visit and granted it more beefiness. There was plenty of bite left in it, just shifted down the spectrum.

Palm muting feels really shine, too, because of the soft corners on the affair. I like it.

• #five

Thought id add, that brass roller bridge on the gfs site Is not solid brass as they advertise, simply the rollers are brass. I returned mine and bought the $12 one on eBay.

• #half-dozen

Thought id add, that brass roller bridge on the gfs site Is non solid brass as they advertise, just the rollers are brass. I returned mine and bought the $12 ane on eBay.

That'southward a unlike bridge than the one we are talking well-nigh, though.

• #seven

Thought I'd dredge this thread up for more discussion a few years out. I have an old Memphis Les Paul copy in rough shape I'one thousand slowly putting dorsum together, and I'd like to upgrade the bridge from the crappy all pot metal metric matter on there now. I had planned to put some of the steel conversion posts in and apply a regular Tune O Matic, simply plant that mine is former plenty that the thread is not the same as the electric current metric stuff. The guitar is all black, and I'm thinking it would be cool to utilize the black GFS brass bridge. And then anyway, whatsoever more opinions on this thing? I'k particularly curious if the locking posts that become into the torso are also brass or steel, or if they are the same useless pot metal well-nigh of them are. If you got 1 of these and dropped ane of the posts onto a hard surface, did information technology ring out or simply kind of thud like hard Play Doh?

• #8

Posts are pot metal as I retrieve.

• #nine

Thank you for the input. In that example I'll probably just use the original bridge for now and maybe eventually plug the holes and redrill for an ABR.

• #10

Yet have them installed in my guitar later all this time. They ring out pretty well. I didn't scrape the chrome finish off to encounter what it was underneath and it has been a long time since I installed them. The locking bolt is obviously steel. At that place is no play - it is actually solid. Contumely seems to emphasize the fundamental a little more - seems to make it bolder and louder and perchance a little more bottom end. By comparison the aforementioned model guitar *same model, different color) with the big metric gotoh style bridge is a tiny chip brighter with a little less bottom end. I think the smaller ABR sized metric bridges are fifty-fifty a little bit brighter still.

So they exercise sound a bit different. It has proven to be a worthy upgrade. I have not removed information technology.

• #xi

I kept the tailpiece on my Epi, simply not the bridge. There was an odd ringing to it I never could observe.

• #12

never had that consequence with mine, but didn't accept the tailpiece, only the bridge. Besides, did you have information technology on 1 of the 3 small/calorie-free strings? When y'all flip your strings on top of the tailpiece information technology can cause less tension across your bridge saddles, and can definitely cause odd ringing - fifty-fifty a sitar effect. I had it happen on a strat way guitar that I removed the string retainers from - non enough tension over the nut. Information technology can defintely happen at the bridge too. Merely a thought. I take ran into that.

• #13

Their tailpiece didn't work well other than decked and it hit the bridge then. The ringing was why I top wrapped information technology to kickoff with and so it seems unlikely that was the issue.

• #14

I constitute a few things can cause this ringing.

- Not enough string tension
- A slot consequence (need to clean the slots in the saddles or nut) with a needle file or nut file.
- Something loose or vibrating (that isn't supposed to be)
- occasionally a bad string can do this (not often)

Commonly the first or 2d. Could have been any of that I suppose. In my case works fine and does non do that. Y'all know, I think you may have mentioned it rubbed a saddle because of the angle? If and so - y'all could take flipped the saddle in the bridge. One side of the saddle has a sharper cutoff than the other, so I put the sharper cutoff sides on the side of the tailpiece. I recollect I flipped three saddles. I forgot I did that as it has been so long agone. That *might* also mess with the tone. I have had the larger sized metric and nashville bridges do things similar that besides. ABR types are not as broad, then they don't tend to have that issue.

I suppose it does not matter at present that you are not using it! Simply you lot run into weirdness every now and so.

I had more one weird situation where a guitar would audio funny on sure notes and it was the frequency was causing something else to vibrate only on that pitch. I think I tracked downwards a loose nut on a tuning key.

Last edited: Oct 14, 2014

• #16

I have that bridge in nickel on a Dean Z79, which has through-torso anchoring of the strings in a vee-shaped tailpiece.
That particular guitar, like about Deans from the Korean factory, seems to be extremely light, which makes for a lively musical instrument. The Sung Il ABR copy was utter shite.
Before I installed the GFS (XGP... whatsoever they call it now...) bridge, I replaced all of the black steel ready screws and locking bolts with stainless versions. The stainless looks perfect with the nickel plating. I went with black studs equally the guitar is black and I liked the fact that they'd kind of 'disappear' below the span. I yanked the original bushings and put in the brass ones, even though the thread was -supposedly- the same. The new bushings are quite substantial compared to the originals and the threads are much tighter.
Now that the intonation is set and everything is locked down (a 4mm allen screw will fit into the studs where the locking screws were... information technology's machined with a hex recess down in in that location... there's no need to ever bargain with the thumbwheels), I never have to think virtually it. It doesn't rattle or shift adjustment, I can remove strings without annihilation falling off, and there is no surfaces to contact the strings after their break indicate over the saddles. Tonally, the guitar is more alive and less tinny. Visually, information technology's nicer to me, particularly with the stainless screws instead of the oxide blackness ones. Functionally, it's a gear up-information technology-and-forget-information technology system that I oasis't had to fiddle with in several years.

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